I’ve never bought or played a game with Denuvo, but I want to get Final Fantasy VII Revelation on launch and the PC version will have Denuvo, according to the Steam page.

How big a problem is this typically? Can I expect it to work on Linux?

I could go for the PS5 version, but the last game (FF7 Rebirth) had a shitty performance mode on PS5, and my PC is a good bit more powerful. So I’d lean toward PC if it’s viable.

It seems like a safe bet that Square-Enix willl eventually ditch Denuvo, since they do that for most of their games. So I’m not too worried long-term but I want a smooth experience day 1.

Normally I’d wait for user reports, but I definitely want to play on day 1, so I’ll be one of the users reporting instead. :)

What’s your experience been if you’ve been stuck with Denuvo before?

  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
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    It’s generally never a problem. The only time where it does become a problem is if the game doesn’t run on proton immediately as every time you switch the proton version, it counts as a new system and you will quickly run into a 5 game activiations per day limit.

    However, if it works without tinkering, it has never been an issue for me. But then again, I don’t buy a lot of denuvo-affected games. I think RE9 and Pragmata shipped with Denuvo, and those were the last AAA games I played, and both of them worked flawlessly.

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    I played Rebirth on my Fedora PC when it first came out; it was fine*

    *: mostly, I think I had to tinker with different versions of proton to get a smooth experience, but I don’t remember specifics

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    Denuvo robs you of ownership and control. Do not give a company money for what is merely a digital rental. Fuck that. The first two in the trilogy did not use it, so adding it to the finale is a thieving scumbag move.

    Don’t buy anything that ships with Denuvo. Do not buy it on console instead. Do not buy it at all. Fuck these thieving corporations.

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      Yeah I’d like to play Crimson Desert but holding off on buying until Denuvo is gone.

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    Every time the Proton version updates or you change to try a different version, Denuvo registers it as a new PC. And there is a limit how many often you can change in short amount of time (1 hour? 1 day? I don’t now), before cooldown sets in. And while there is this cooldown period, you cannot play the game. And in some cases the performance seems to be reduced, but that topic is not very clear. And Denuvo also turn offline games into online requirement, as you cannot play them without active internet connection. I don’t know of this is a common issue with Denuvo.

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    Do not give any game with AN EMBEDDED KERNAL-LEVEL VIRUS access to your systems nor your money

    It’s literally a virus, sold by shithead companies who are too lazy or incapable of making a decent product

    Fuck em or steal it

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      This is the actual Linux answer. If you’ve made the switch then you know it’s worth being a *nix user first and a gamer second, because capitalism. But despite the horrible churn of enshittification these are true golden days for Linux gaming, so be patient but enjoy it.

      (I say *nix to include our BSD pals)

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    This urge to get the new hotness right away just plays into the hands of these scumbag corporations that want to milk us. The game will be just as good if not better a year from now (or if it winds up sucking you can save your money). There’s plenty else to play already, don’t let yourself be manipulated.

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    If Steam ever shuts down, an old Reddit post had info about a customer experience message chain where a Valve representive said they had contingency plans if that ever happens.

    If there’s third-party DRM on top of the regular Steamworks DRM, the game you bought has much worse odds of actually working offline if Valve goes out of business or the devs abandon it. That’s why I try to avoid Denuvo.

    That being said, I’ve played Denuvo games on my system and any performance drops have been minimal at best. YMMV on that, but I’m a mid-end gamer at best. A certain athetic woman will provide alternative access to the game if you really want to skip Denuvo, but it should be fine.

    But Denuvo is just silly and pointless. It sets out to be an anti-piracy measure, but it’s not actually preventing games from being cracked at all. Game studios should prevent piracy by making a high-quality, consumer-friendly product. I would never pirate a GOG game, but I can’t say the same for Ubisoft.

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      If Steam ever shuts down, an old Reddit post had info about a customer experience message chain where a Valve representive said they had contingency plans if that ever happens.

      I’ve heard this rumor repeated many times, but I’ve never seen a real source. I doubt it’s something Valve could actually promise.

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        It may or may not actually pan out, especially since there’s a good chance that Valve will outlive Gabe Newell. And that’s why it’s really good get your games on GOG and Itch before resorting to Steam. But sometimes Steam’s the only game in town, and I’m wishing for the best for my library.

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        I have my doubts too. I don’t know of this is even legally possible. And in case Valve does that, the servers could get shut down very quickly with an order; if that is not legal at all, I don’t know.

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      It sets out to be an anti-piracy measure, but it’s not actually preventing games from being cracked at all.

      But it did for a long, long time. It’s only this year that Denuvo has become reliably circumvented outside of a few outliers.

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    I’m with the others that you should wait, but to actually answer your question, no Denuvo itself isn’t a problem and the game will work fine should you get it