I really hope they come with a wayland native version in the near future.
This, proton and an app I need for work are all that’s left before I can trash xwayland… can’t wait!
All I really want is a context menu to open the game’s Wine prefix directory.
yes please. It’s super annoying in general but on deck it gets old so fast that it happens in the past.
I was hoping there would be something about resource usage. Curse you, steamwebhelper
Oh yeah. If you leave a steam page open, it’ll create a very slow memory leak. Left store page open for about a week, came back to 6gb steamwebhelper xd
Wait really?! Feel like that’s a bug that really needs addressing
memory leak’s at a rate that doesn’t matter (~30mb/hour). That makes it hard to track down & reproduce. Also, solution would be to just navigate to your steam library or just not leave the window open like that :p
That makes it hard to track down & reproduce.
no it doesnt?
It’s a web browser, it’s only going to come from one place lmao.
The Web.
yeah, and the answer is electron, it’s electron causing the memory leak, the solution is to not use it.
I completely forgot Steam used electron.
what kind of sane person is gonna leave a steam page open for over a week, though?
Also not a fan of downloads eating a core.
Isn’t that just because they download a compressed format?
Encrypted and compressed. But it’s way beyond what I expect that to take.
it depends on your network speed also.
My internet isn’t that fast (100mbps), and it was still maxing one core.
how old/new is your cpu? CPUs recently, in the last 5-8 years have gotten really fast.
It’s a bit old, it’s a Ryzen 3500U (laptop from 2017/2018 ish), so at the older end of your range. I’m still maxing my internet speed, it just kicks the fan on.
I haven’t checked my desktop (Ryzen 5600) because I don’t hear the fan when the CPU gets pegged (never thought to check), but maybe I will the next time I download a game.
I would love to see valve eventually have a whole team dedicated to their own OS and make it a super viable and stable distro.
Why would they do that when the community already does? - nothing valve is doing isnt already in Fedora/ublue or Arch, people who say they are going to switch when Valve puts out a general SteamOS image are just wasting time and procrastinating
OEM interoperability/functionality guarantee
The last big game dev holdouts will agree to target Linux if the PC userbase jumps significantly and Valve guarantees a standard expectation with technology with things like rolling kernel, latest libs, steam functionality, etc.
There’s still a lot of stupidly annoying things that are missing like proper wayland (valve->frog) and its resultant features like HDR, VRR, etc.
The linux packaging problem from 20 years ago is still a problem (albeit much less) which Torvalds himself mentioned Valve would just say “screw it” and bypass/solve the problem via Steam (which they did). The issue is the remainder. Kernel updates are all over the place depending on distro. Everything Ubuntu is technically out of date because SteamOS uses Arch. Fedora gets you closer at least.
It’s really just that OEM guarantee that would get it moving quicker. Although it might not even happen tbh, Valve said they weren’t that interested in competing against Microsoft which makes sense because its still the primary OS of their customer base.
OEM interoperability/functionality guarantee
The last big game dev holdouts will agree to target Linux if the PC userbase jumps significantly and Valve guarantees a standard expectation with technology with things like rolling kernel, latest libs, steam functionality, etc.
A general image for SteamOS is not going to solve this. If you buy a PC from Dell and install SteamOS on it, there is no difference than if you installed Fedora. Secondly Valve is building from the the same sources as every other distro, if SteamOS supports it, every other distro does. In the cases of things like gamemode and gamescope, you can install these or they come with Bazzite and friends too, because Valve already devs these in the open with community and groups like Collabora.
There’s still a lot of stupidly annoying things that are missing like proper wayland (valve->frog) and its resultant features like HDR, VRR, etc.
Gamescope is open so any distro can use it. Desktop compositors are shipping these features already (SteamOS already uses upstream KDE). Not sure what the problem is
The linux packaging problem from 20 years ago is still a problem (albeit much less) which Torvalds himself mentioned Valve would just say “screw it” and bypass/solve the problem via Steam (which they did). The issue is the remainder. Kernel updates are all over the place depending on distro. Everything Ubuntu is technically out of date because SteamOS uses Arch. Fedora gets you closer at least.
SteamOS uses flatpak, every other distro uses flatpak. Ostree atomic distros (Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite. ublue (bazzite and friends) use flatpak. Modern kernels are on every distro, especially Fedora and Arch. Non-existant problem IMHO
It’s really just that OEM guarantee that would get it moving quicker. Although it might not even happen tbh, Valve said they weren’t that interested in competing against Microsoft which makes sense because its still the primary OS of their customer base.
Again, a SteamOS general release is not going to get you any more OEM support than installing any other distro
I’m not waiting to switch. Well other than waiting for the next time I refresh my hardware. I try to only switch my OS when i do new hardware. I mentioned it because I like their style and ways of doing things and I’d enjoy having them in a broader OS sense.
i hope it finally fixes the bug that makes steam have alzheimers when it comes to windows size and position.
because I’m sick to fucking death of having to constantly resize and reposition the windows every time i switch between small/large and when launching.
Its so bad that I gave up and just started browsing steam store via browser.
I hate that it steals the focus like 5 times when launching. I’ll try to click off to do something while it’s starting, but it steals input focus. I get doing it once when the app finishes loading, but I really don’t need to stare at the startup progress bar.
Steam, as a program, has fundamentally gotten worse with every update ever since they switched to electron/chromium
remember for a while they tried to take small mode away from us.
cause they are going down the same route that everything goes. Its gotten popular, so now they are trying to turn it into a social media platform.
I dont want a social media playform. theres already enough of those. I just want a small, slick, low resource, easy to use, quick to load program to buy my games and launch them.
Steam has always been a social gaming platform…in fact it wasn’t even always a storefront.
I’ve had steam since HL2 launched.
No it hasnt.
and no, it wasnt a storefront then either, because it was DRM/game decrypter and multiplayer server finder. They had no other games for sale at the time.
multiplayer server finder
and what imaginarily clever point do you think you are making with that.
dropdown menus now appear correctly.
I feel like I’ve heard this before. Anyway, if it’s true they’ve finally fixed a bug that’s almost two years old
Dropdown bug still happens even in win10
I had this until I switched to flatpak version a year ago. That helped both with graphics driver issues and the stability of the main client for me.
flatpak is the official release of steam iirc, so that’s why.
cries in Ubuntu
You can use Flatpak as well?
I assumed I could, but (also assumed) it was difficult to do so and would introduce fuckyness. I was wrong!
The problem with using flat pack version of Steam for me was the weird folder structure for installing games. I like my stuff to be easy to remember and human readable. I.e. Home/Games instead of 726284783/737384/*installed game
How bout anti-cheat, so we can play multiplayer games? Please.
Just drop the anit-cheat requirement and let is handle cheating directly, with vote-to-kick, like we did back in the day.
We have that. Depends wholly on the developer to implement it right.
Depends on Publisher allowing Linux Support.
Which AFAIK means to merely check a box and steam takes care of it.
Depends on the AntiCheat in use
VAC and BattlEye are both check boxes, others I’ve heard aren’t always guaranteed
How about you fix cs2 for Linux?
If ProtonDB says that it’s working then it’s working, most likely something ain’t right with your setup.
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You pirate games because Steam opens a window?
EDIT: Seems you’re starting to resort to cheap attacks on me because you got downvoted
Gabe Newell said it himself. Piracy isn’t a price issue it’s a service issue. If the steam client is shit. Then we’re going to go pirate
But it’s really not. It has bugs, but the overall service is fantastic.
I agree. I was just defending that other person. Still think it’s ass the the steam client is a second class citizen on Linux. It’s still filled with so many bugs you don’t see on windows
sure, the service is good. The utility is awful, and the utility is part of the overall service. And currently, the steam client is basically fucking bloatware.
It’s really not though. It could certainly be slimmer, but it does a lot of things way better than its competitors.
It’s really not though.
Steam fanboy first time hearing subjective opinions.
Opinions are always subjective… not sure what you’re getting at.
Here’s my perspective. I’ve been a Linux user longer than I’ve been a Steam user, in fact I only made a Steam account when they came to Linux. In the 12-ish years since they launched on Linux, they have only made my experience playing games on Linux better.
What other company is comparable here? The closest is maybe GOG, but they don’t even support Linux with their client, much less actually invest in the platform. They do make a few older games work on Linux, but that’s about it. Their first party titles don’t even support Linux.
So yeah, I’m willing to overlook a few things. That doesn’t make me a Steam fanboy, and I’d happily move my spending elsewhere if another company stepped up and provided decent Linux support. But the closest we have is GOG basically treating Heroic purchases like affiliate links (not sure what the share is), and that doesn’t instill a ton of confidence, though it does encourage me to occasionally buy from them.
