• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    In my experience, Matrix has a lot of misleading functionalities that drive people into enough of a false sense of security to out themselves.

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      4 hours ago

      What misleading things? I have been running a server for almost a year and no issues at all. All features of Discord work for me in matrix with the right setup. Hard part is getting friend groups to migrate, had decent luck but its an uphill battle for sure getting people to use another app/service. Power of defaults is strong

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        22 minutes ago

        If you thought I was referring to ease of use, that’s not what I was referring to. If you are treating it as just another Discord, then you probably don’t have to worry about what I was referring to.

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      6 hours ago

      In my experience, Matrix has a lot of misleading functionalities

      What misleading functionalities?

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        Why ask, when you are already sure enough? I’ll be replying to the people who seem genuinely interested privately eventually, not really looking to engage in a fight about whether your religion really is or isn’t perfect. I also have no obligation to inform the people it is most effective against. However, I will tell you, because you are a genius level individual and know the full intricacies of the platform, you and anyone else at your level are fully immune.

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          2 hours ago

          you posted, they asked for quite reasonable clarification. what a stupid response. next time keep it to yourself

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            Then he shouldn’t be a moron and downvote the person he wants a response from. It is a stupid response, it is not my job to tell him or you my opinion, because it is that.

            People will easily dismiss it if I provide any more details because they are just too smart for it, while people whom my comment made more cautious will be less likely to fall into a false sense of security. Be sure to have a beef with the dozens of people who also didn’t seem to need any clarification. I don’t need to get into the name-calling war zealots like you are eager for.

            If you are sure, you are sure, why so mad? I can tell you it isn’t some deep hidden zero day exploit, if that makes you feel any less hostile. It won’t, because people like you read “misleading”, and literally thought “hah, probably wouldn’t be misleading to me!” and are just trying to farm a response you can object to - the “stupid response” all but confirms this intent.

            I also don’t need to prove anything to anyone else. Just being aware there’s an issue will make them much more cautious, and that’s largely what’s needed.

        • who@feddit.org
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          1 hour ago

          What a rude response. Also, you seem to have mistaken me for someone else.

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      12 hours ago

      That may be so, but my group of 4 has been using it for voice, text, and screen share, with almost zero issues. (Except a couple sync issues that fixed itself in a day) We are working on getting off the matrix.org server soon though.

      I’m surprised actually how good its been. I am sure the small glitch we had is because we are on matrix.org. need to move soon. My friend set up our room without me and didn’t understand that you don’t just use the matrix.org server …explaining how matrix works is hard to non nerds.

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        11 hours ago

        I usually explain it like email, most people get it then. Doesn’t matter if you’re using @outlook.com or @gmail.com when sending an email, you can talk to users on either as long as you specify the server address (which is mandatory in email anyway).

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          11 hours ago

          Yes same!! They just get confused on what a server is. They dont get that our room on matrix.org is not a server. And what is matrix vs their clients like element commet fluffychat…I try to explain its the client vs the protocol but then I get called a big old nerd 😁

          Discord warped a lot of minds on terminology.

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        21 hours ago

        Have you looked into https://element.io/en/server-suite/community ?

        I run my own server for friends and family. And there are more abd more optional addons that may have made that server suite a more sane place to start when selfhosting. I have not evaluated it tho, but thought you should know about it.

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          Is the idea to make it easier? Cause I am also setting up matrix atm. I don’t use kubernetes though. Or is the idea that it will be maybe perfectly aligned with the element client?