Filed just yesterday, September 2nd 2025.
STEAM FRAME™ trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of computer hardware; computer networking hardware; computer peripherals; computer hardware and computer software for the reproduction, processing, and streaming of audio, video, data, text, and multimedia content.
https://uspto.report/TM/99370857
STEAM FRAME™ trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of computer game consoles for recreational game playing; video game consoles; video game accessories, namely, controllers for video games.
Deck -> frame -> veranda?
I’m pretty sure this is for an AI robot that is meant to play our backlog games for us
They need to get better marketing people. “Gonna go play a game on my frame” just sounds silly.
Yeah, I’d rather play on my deck instead
I don’t understand why they didn’t stick with the piping metaphor when naming things. You know, Valve, Steam… The Steam Deck should have been called “Boiler”.
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Chill, they’re not a Kiwi.
At least, I hope they’re not a Kiwi
What’s a kiwi?
It’s a fruit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifruit
Someone from New Zealand. They pronounce deck in a funny way, look it up.
Just for further reference 😉
My guess: Valve is partnering with IBM. They are bringing the mainframe to the masses, with SteamOS preinstalled.
They are probably inspired by the guy who bought a mainframe and put it in his parents basement.
A bit small I would say. I thought of a 42U 19 inch rack. Maybe its just the power supply?
Finally, I can play Doom on ultra.
Framework + valve collaborating to release half-life 3 as a platform exclusive, confirmed!
Could you imagine if they release HL3 as a Linux exclusive? That’d satisfy me to no end. I don’t like exclusivity, but it’d be so fun to watch the chaos.
I used to be annoyed at Github projects that were Linux only but didn’t mention it. Now I’m annoyed at Github projects that are Windows only but don’t mention it.
The app that you’ve always wanted, or at least, close enough so that you can tweak it and maybe submit a PR! Except of course that it’s written in .NET and uses WinForms for its UI. Bastards.
In some ways, I’m a bit envious of Windows for having a standardised UI toolkit, even if it’s terrible. Linux has a selection that are each flawed in their own way. I think the last time I enjoyed writing UI code was on the Amiga 1200, and that wasn’t yesterday.
uses WinForms for it’s UI
Sounds like a project I wouldn’t want to contribute to 😆
Source: spent a couple years maintaining a product written in that PoS framework
Honestly that’s a genius marketing strategy
That’s what I’m hoping, too. A collaboration between Valve and Framework, with iFixit for good measure. I’m expecting that the processor and motherboard will be custom designed, but I’m also hoping that the hardware will be repairable and upgradable.
That would be beautiful.
Half-Life 3 to be exclusive to Samsung Frame TVs, confirmed!
Hmm, you might be on to something with Framework recently releasing a desktop PC. Maybe they decided to cooperate with Valve for a home console. Valve seems to be quite into repairability as well, so that doesn’t seem like a totally unlikely match.
Oh I wasn’t kidding with my speculation on that part. The half-life 3 part is over the top silliness, but framework collab is definitely plausible.
Don’t forget that Valve collaborates with iFixIt to make replacement Steam Deck parts available
Well, they did tease half life 3 at the end of Half life alyx, but it would most likely be another VR exclusive. And it’s not like that was the first time valve teased half life 3 without following up on it 🫤
Considering the Steam Deck is not a deck, and the Valve Index is not an index, I’m assuming this is not a frame.
Oh wait, Steam Controller.
Steam Machine was a 10/10 name for an unfortunately failed product :(
Mine did not, and still does not, produce any steam :(
Surely it’s a mechsuit?
Honestly I’m ecstatic to see more Valve hardware. They’re setting the target for hardware for game developers which means a better experience for us all.
PC Game Developers will know they need to get they’re game running on deck (and now FRAME) if they want to hit the maximum size audience. Nvidia currently owns PC gaming but they’re not good stewards of the PC gaming ecosystem anymore (nor is Microsoft).
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I really have no interest in title’s that beg me to run buggy builds on a $2000 graphics card that is less than 2 years old to be “playable”. (Looking squarely at unreal engine 5 games)
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I have no interest in GPUs that cost 200% the cost of the rest of the PC.
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I want AMD apus to dominate the space. I want Linux to empower them. I am tired and TBH my next gaming PC is going to end up running Kazeta.org at this rate.
Thank you for coming to my TEDex talk
I want AMD apus to dominate the space. I want Linux to empower them.
Monkey’s Paw: I have really good news for you about the PS4/5!
Lol yes 😂
I have no interest in GPUs that cost 200% the cost of the rest of the PC.
Well, CPUs have come down in price because they just aren’t advancing in performance that quickly any more; serial compute hasn’t improved that much. If you charge much for a modern processor, people will just use an older one. Parallel compute improvements has kept going, and thus GPUs aren’t under that kind of pressure from physical limitations.
I just looked up Kazeta.org and it looks like a gaming console with extra steps. It looks cool, but the amount of effort needed to build a physical collection of carts is so tedious that I would have spent better time simply purchasing a gaming console because they are always plug- and- play
I just think it’s neat!
For a while, I’ve also just wanted to use igpus since my gaming demands are not that extreme, but they were enough that older igpus couldn’t handle it. The steam deck was the first machine that could do it for me.
Unless I want to start running ai models in my home, I’ll skip the gpu.
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My bet is a new cloud gaming platform.
Would they really? Feels like that market is pretty saturated already. Unless they do something unique with it. But then again it would be great for the steam deck.
“Saturated”? Seriously? How so? I can’t think of a single cloud gaming platform that didn’t fail miserably. Nobody can seem to be able to make a competitive service. There’s a massive gap that needs to be filled.
Uh, GeForce Now? Xbox gamepass/cloud? Amazon Luna? Probably more. And if others fail I assume because there isn’t enough demand. (except for stadia, that’s just failed because Google gets a hard on for canceling projects). Now I haven’t bothered with cloud gaming since OnLive. So I don’t know how good any of these are. They probably can be improved on. But to say there are none? Nah.
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I have nothing to add I’m just loopy and thought it was funny
They already have the tech for it nearly perfected. Most of the time I play a Steam game now, I’m playing through my phone, tablet, or AppleTV. It’s fantastic.
Only thing that sucks is the Steam link app locks you out of the store and friends functionality (I believe to comply with Apple restrictions). Locking friends straight up breaks multiplayer in a few games.
I’m glad that Steam Link works for you. Meanwhile I gave up on it and decided to just lug my 50LB desktop from room to room instead, because doing so is considerably less of a hassle than putting up with Steam Link and its constant lagging, disconnects, dropouts, FPS dips, and input lag. It’s so fucking bad that I can’t believe that people actually still use it as more than just a neat novelty for five minutes at a time.
I don’t think steam link is perfect as a frequent user, there’s lots of connectivity issues
Probably very dependent on your setup. I have high speed fiber, so the performance is great either at home or remote.
If you don’t have a great connection, or your upload speed is limited by the ISP, your experience won’t be great. But maybe that’s what Steam frame is going to address?
Why would your internet connection matter for something that runs on LAN?
It’s not LAN only. You can play remotely.
I’m on fiber as well but using wifi on the remote machine
Ahh damn. Yeah, that’ll do it. Since I use Steam link, I’ve just got the pc setup on the server rack, so it’s hardwired in.
Valve is building psychic robots remote piloted by orphans.
AMD field detected! Pattern orange!
Is this a “woooosh” or am I missing something? The comment you replied to is referencing Warframe.
Ah, I took it as a Neon Genesis Evangelion reference.
Mechs are universal!
Frames -> Glasses -> new VR headset?
PS: Whatever you call it, please Steam Controller 2, it’s been too long 🥲
Agreed.
But I get a strong feeling it is going to be all-in-one like the Quest. Computer and Battery are on the headset.
Deck Verified to now extend to VR titles through this new device. Frame Verified.
I wish. I like the idea of a standalone headset but I’m not exactly thrilled to give Meta any money…
Valve have had prototype schematics leak a few times for their standalone headset. Internal development name for it is Deckard.
I’m sure a new VR headset would still use the Index name. AR glasses maybe, but I doubt it.
High Index Lenses -> Valve Index.
You might be right.
I hope you are right.
I’m personally speculating something like xr glasses with game streaming ability and the ability to connect to some kind of controller.
Maybe a self-hosted gaming computer rack via which one Steam Links to Steam Decks around the house, give them a lot more compute capability. :-)
Steam port for IBM mainframes confirmed?!??!!!??!!?!!!??
Mech frame just loaded to the tits with GPUs
Hmmm. I was thinking since sort of flat screen that masquerades as a picture frame. Maybe an AIO device for game streaming.
Steam machines was a better name to be honest. I’m sad that effort withered and died.
GabeCube was good enough for me.
I sorta dig Frame™
I’d say more effort went into the software which sets us up for where we are now where a great deal of PC games is already compatible making this a must buy for playing the massive libraries that everyone has been amassing since 2003. If it can boot Plasma Bigscreen or if Steam Big Picture gets more entertainment apps like Netflix, it will be a home entertainment juggernaut.
Maybe they will use the stream machines name as an umbrella term for all their “consoles”. I like that name too.
Seems like we’re getting one step close to a full fledge SteamOS. I’m guessing they want to sell pre-builts before releasing the OS?
My guess would be they don’t want to spend a lot of effort supporting arbitrary hardware before they’re ready. Honestly, I don’t get why everyone is so obsessed with it. There are excellent dedicated distro maintainers that provide the same feature set SteamOS will provide —or something more suitable to your taste even. If you have a Deck then great, keep running SteamOS. If not, there are potentially better options for you already.
Plug for CachyOS with KDE Plasma - made switching from windows 10 to Linux on my desktop feel very familiar after learning in KDE Plasma on my Steam Deck. Personally I hope it’s deckard
Is there a reason valve calls all their products “steam something” as opposed to “valve something” ?
Valve is the company, it let’s out steam
There was the Valve Index
I would guess it’s to indicate heavy association with the Steam client/service. Valve could make other products (I know they’re working on human brain interface stuff), but if it’s called “Steam…” you can easily identify it’s in the gaming line for use with Steam.
A Valve is a mechanism used to regulate and control the release of Steam?
Probably more brand recognition with Steam than Valve, I assume.
I am hoping this ends up being a PC hardware ecosystem, where each component is a cartridge or LEGO brick. Just pull out the power supply, RAM, GPU, or CPU, and slot in another, without worrying about breaking something or technical details. No need to dig your paws into the flesh of the machine and hope your rocket surgery skills are up to the task.
Serious question: Have you ever built a PC?
Because it really isn’t rocket appliances. I would venture your average 12 year old could do it, and has done it given a YouTube tutorial.
All of the connectors only fit one way, and they are all uniquely shaped/sized.
More expensive, Proprietary hardware, sounds like a nightmare for all involved.
The only way they could make a PC more modular without making more proprietary is to use laptop expansion ports or USB C expansion ports.
I can tell you without a doubt the average 12 year old is most likely unable to even install windows…they don’t know how to use computers anymore like people born in the 80s early 90s learned to use and fix them.
Plus it would probably heavily limit your hardware choices unless all hardware vendors jump in. If not a lot do so, you might as well just stick to prefabs.
Personally I don’t see the benefit. PC building really is already simple enough. It’s just people’s mentality that keeps them back. You really have to something dumb to break anything except maybe with some CPU socket designs So if they would fix that last pain point we are already there basically.
If PC customization was casualized, you might end up with more choices. If people are mentally blocked from putting together a custom system due to fear, that disincentives companies from being in the market. I know that I would consider the odd upgrade every couple of years, if FUD wasn’t making that feel like a bad thing to try.
Maybe. I’m not against the idea. A new form factor could be good… But if it’s just to make it more ‘casual’, imho I find what we have already casual enough.
If you don’t understand how the parts work, what they do, how delicate the connectors are… Without any experience you can’t know what not to do. Trying to build a PC, a lot can go wrong if you don’t know what you’re doing. That a lot of expensive parts that can be destroyed in a blink of an eye if you make a mistake.
You say all the parts fit only one way. Well, that depends on how clumsy or ignorant the builder is. Or both
Yes, it’s possible to screw it up, but most people seem to be really nervous about screwing it up and don’t screw it up. There are plenty of tutorials and whatnot on PC building that you can follow, and they’ll tell you when you need to be careful (mostly just the CPU and PCIe cards like GPUs).
The average person will be fine if they do some amount of basic research. A modern PC only has like 6 parts anyway (motherboard, RAM, CPU, GPU, storage, and PSU), so there are only so many ways to get the wrong parts or something (mostly just mobo/CPU/RAM combo, which you can usually buy in a bundle). You don’t have to know what everything does, you just need to be able to follow detailed instructions, which the motherboard will provide.
I’ll be honest, even though it’s not hard, it’s still intimidating to the average person. Having easier connecters with clear slot labels would be an absolute win for everyone. But then it introduces the problem of having another competing standard.
The connectors have to be very sturdy, making them easier will not be good for performance
That’s definitely not a blanket statement you can make. I’m not saying everything needs to be USB-C. Even just a connection like VGA/DVI that you can screw in would be perfectly fine.
Oh boy, the amount of engineers I have seen who end up with computers dangling from cables is not zero. At the time of VGA as a standard almost no average user bothered to screw on connectors.
An HDMI cord will pull itself out
A screwed in connector will rip the pins off the board. There is no extra strength there.
The difference is you can just plug the HDMI back in. You aren’t reattaching the pins to the mobo
I have built at least three machines, and I hate it. My hands tend to shake, and I worry when I drop a screw into the motherboard or trying to figure out how to wind a wire into position without causing damage. I am not a rich man, and fear losing money or my data if I mess up.
Honestly, I dislike your position, it sounds like a humble brag.
So… a PC?
They really are close to plug and play. You need to know that parts are compatible, but that’s true for anything.
No, a PC ecosystem where all the parts are shrouded and there are no wires to futz with.
It isn’t unrealistic - the original Starfox and Yoshi’s Island games were on cartridges, which included 3D acceleration (Super FX) hardware that increased the performance over the standard SNES. For the player to use it, all they had to do was just insert the cart into the SNES and start playing. The Nintendo 64 also had RAM expansion Paks that plugged into the machine, doubling the RAM to a massive 8 megabytes, in less than 10 seconds.
Sadly this isn’t going to happen, but is my dream too.
pls be deckard pls be deckard pls be deckard
Deckard being the long-awaited sequel to Deck?
Here is hoping for the Indexard?
Deckard is expected to be a VR headset. Fremont is expected to be similar to a traditional console or HTPC
