dude hell yeah count me in

https://stoat.chat/server/01JN4QAT47NYTWGB2X0Z7Z1RB5/channel/01JN4QAT47NJP17DD59XCATPC4/01KHMV1GTBETH51GWEVNSN51C9

lemme know if that doesn’t work!

Yup, I’m pretty active on the game dev server on stoat. Anyone lurking here, come check it out!

yeah, I don’t love that

This is actually a good point for fluxer. Stoat being UK based isn’t great, I’ll agree with that and it’s something I didn’t even think about until now.

Maybe fluxer being based in sweden (I think) is better? On the surface, I think it is but my knowledge of swedish privacy laws is pretty surface level.

That said, fluxer asks for a date of birth when signing up and also has like pricing tiers and stuff which instantly gives me the ick. Stoat is just like “name and email please” and you’re done lol

This doe a much better job at saying what I was trying to say haha

Ok, I don’t feel to bad now lol I also found Matrix to just kinda be a mess. I don’t run home servers or anything but I’m a fairly experienced linux user and like to poke around tech and all that. I felt kinda dumb for not figuring it out tbh haha

Me either tbh so I did a bit of digging and found that stoat has been around a bit longer and (I know this is a dumb metric for this) seems to have more stars and forks on their github which indicates to me it’ll be around longer.

That said, fluxer has nicer UI imo and I think it has a few more features so it might outdo stoat in the future idk.

Ultimately, I think both are great and likely to be around for a while so just pick one and go with it. They both are open source, use the same license and all that. So you can’t go wrong.

Best of luck in migrating! I wish I had a solution for you

I know folks like the other commenter mention that Matrix is simple and all but I think for the average person that’s just wrong.

Maybe in the fediverse our vision of what the average person can do/understand with/about tech is skewed but trying to get some of my friends onto Matrix would be an absolute nightmare.

Not to mention the VAST majority of people don’t like playing tech detective to figure things out, even if they could, and just wanna sign up and move on with their lives. That is something stoat as offered so far while remaining free and open source.

Weird it works perfectly fine on my mobile data.

Can we all not move to another proprietary paid service again? Good god.

Stoat has been wonderfully simple so far and is free and open source. It’s got voice chat. It’s only been about a week of using it so far so please correct me if I’m wrong or point out issues that I haven’t seen or mentioned.

It seems like the most realistic option to me since I doubt the masses wanna get into self hosting.