Maybe steam needs a verge of death system like new grounds. If the Game is downvoted to oblivion, delete it forever. And take their 100 $ submission fee and give it to charity or something so at least something good comes out of this sloppy mess.
LLM slop is the next evolution to asset flips. Fundamentally the same thing.
Steam handles this not by deleting these slops but by hiding them effectively they don’t come up in results unless you search for very specific terms.
Now here comes my controversial opinion which I hope I get downloaded significantly for: currently it costs $200 to submit a game to steam. This problem would go away if they increase that to $2,000.
I get your idea but I don’t think this is the right approach. 2000 $ is a lot of money in some regions where it would hurt solo Indie devs most. At this point I don’t know if there is regional pricing in those areas for submitting. And for every one else: I am not saying that 2000 $ is nothing, but every one who ever worked in a studio knows how much money is burned in games and this amount would be a minor position on the bill but thats another story.
Maybe a stricter policy about disclaiming where your assets come from would help against slop and asset flips.
And please lets make ai opt-in everywhere. Like I get that websites like itch now have a no ai tag, but this should be active by default. I don’t want to opt out actively every time I browse.
Review bombers would love that. The amount of times that feature would get used the way you’d hope would be dwarfed by the field day right wing trolls would have with it.
The solution is to immediately demand a refund on any game where you even catch a whiff of genAI. Even if it’s past the usual refund terms, request one. Make it painful for Steam, and they will be much more inspired to solve the problem.
Yeah true, maybe. But I think we can still agree that we are drowning in slop nobody wants and if we don‘t filter it out now, this mess will be harder to clean up afterwards.
Maybe steam needs a verge of death system like new grounds. If the Game is downvoted to oblivion, delete it forever. And take their 100 $ submission fee and give it to charity or something so at least something good comes out of this sloppy mess.
There no need to delete.
LLM slop is the next evolution to asset flips. Fundamentally the same thing.
Steam handles this not by deleting these slops but by hiding them effectively they don’t come up in results unless you search for very specific terms.
Now here comes my controversial opinion which I hope I get downloaded significantly for: currently it costs $200 to submit a game to steam. This problem would go away if they increase that to $2,000.
I get your idea but I don’t think this is the right approach. 2000 $ is a lot of money in some regions where it would hurt solo Indie devs most. At this point I don’t know if there is regional pricing in those areas for submitting. And for every one else: I am not saying that 2000 $ is nothing, but every one who ever worked in a studio knows how much money is burned in games and this amount would be a minor position on the bill but thats another story.
Maybe a stricter policy about disclaiming where your assets come from would help against slop and asset flips.
And please lets make ai opt-in everywhere. Like I get that websites like itch now have a no ai tag, but this should be active by default. I don’t want to opt out actively every time I browse.
Review bombers would love that. The amount of times that feature would get used the way you’d hope would be dwarfed by the field day right wing trolls would have with it.
Yeah maybe a little short sighted, you are right. But watching this also feels like a car accident.
The solution is to immediately demand a refund on any game where you even catch a whiff of genAI. Even if it’s past the usual refund terms, request one. Make it painful for Steam, and they will be much more inspired to solve the problem.
Yeah, down with technology! The witch hunt is on! Can we do electricity next?
Not wanting to buy stuff made unethically, such a witch hunt, very regressive. Go do one.
Right, because all the electronics from factories, and electricity from non-renewable sources (the majority) is totally ethical.
/s
You can probably say goodbye to things like LGBT-representation in videogames if that sort of system was implemented.
Yeah true, maybe. But I think we can still agree that we are drowning in slop nobody wants and if we don‘t filter it out now, this mess will be harder to clean up afterwards.
Definitely, the situation sucks all around. Maybe stronger curation by Valve would be an option to mitigate it somewhat.