I know the company. But what is the fear about CRAM? What do you think Facebook / Meta will do to harm you, if you use CRAM? I ask this question honestly, as someone who hates Facebook and does not use any of their services, and never visit their pages. But I use ZStandard developed by Facebook. And I do not see any problem in doing so.
If it is good and open, engineering is engineering. Good engineering came out of Meta before, that all of us use daily, like the zstd compression algorithm.
Save the moral outrage for all the other shady shit Meta imposes on humanity, god knows there is a intercontinental cargo ship load of it to choose from.
And that’s not even mentioning things that aren’t just their tech, like open compute and funding foss and the Linux foundations, crap ton of open source projects, testing, bug fixes, and miscellaneous contributions… Let alone all the tech that tries to compete with their tech; all the alternatives to react et al that are ‘next gen’
Like it or not, the facebooks and googles of the world have contributed significantly to things you probably interact with every day.
As to the Linux kernel at this point everyone has contributed something. That would be like being mad at air for having been processed by Zuckerbergs human form cooling unit.
Now you’re just not arguing in good faith here. You asked for contributions, there they are. I use Btrfs and it’s great. (There’s lots of actually valid reasons to hate meta, let’s focus on those)
I suspect, without evidence, that you’d probably find some Meta engineers contributing to the Linux kernel to some degree, so you may have to rip that out of your system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Facebook_software is comprehensive as far as I know. Even if you don’t use React, a lot of developers use it and control the web. So you might wander around the web that is written with React. But its no longer part of Facebook / Meta, so I don’t know if it still counts.
Meta has funded all sorts of open source infrastructure, for a long time. If you want to avoid their funded contributions… TBH, I wouldn’t even know where to begin.
Nope, never going to use this now. I don’t trust Meta to walk a dog, certainly not with a core os component.
But why not? What is the fear here? It’s not like Meta has any control if you install or enable the feature.
Do you not know what that company does?
I know the company. But what is the fear about CRAM? What do you think Facebook / Meta will do to harm you, if you use CRAM? I ask this question honestly, as someone who hates Facebook and does not use any of their services, and never visit their pages. But I use ZStandard developed by Facebook. And I do not see any problem in doing so.
If it is good and open, engineering is engineering. Good engineering came out of Meta before, that all of us use daily, like the zstd compression algorithm.
Save the moral outrage for all the other shady shit Meta imposes on humanity, god knows there is a intercontinental cargo ship load of it to choose from.
If you genuinely realise (and care) that meta is shady, there is no merit in supporting the company.
Moral outrage is something that people with decent morality have. Apathy is something that zombies have.
I got bad news for you if you use the modern web
Name a few things, I’m curious.
Ever heard of a tiny little thing called React? GraphQL and relay? Presto? Folly? Zstd? Hack? RocksDB? Btrfs?
PyTorch is crazy big in ML/AI and has been for a while now.
And specifically in Linux: https://engineering.fb.com/2015/10/05/open-source/improving-the-linux-kernel-with-upstream-contributions/
And that’s not even mentioning things that aren’t just their tech, like open compute and funding foss and the Linux foundations, crap ton of open source projects, testing, bug fixes, and miscellaneous contributions… Let alone all the tech that tries to compete with their tech; all the alternatives to react et al that are ‘next gen’
Like it or not, the facebooks and googles of the world have contributed significantly to things you probably interact with every day.
Heard of btrfs, don’t use it. Nor the rest.
0 out of 10.
As to the Linux kernel at this point everyone has contributed something. That would be like being mad at air for having been processed by Zuckerbergs human form cooling unit.
Zstd / ZStandard is pretty good.
Now you’re just not arguing in good faith here. You asked for contributions, there they are. I use Btrfs and it’s great. (There’s lots of actually valid reasons to hate meta, let’s focus on those)
The criteria was “that all of us use daily” not “that you’ve heard of”. Scroll up, it’s right there.
You use btrfs, I don’t, therefore the “all of us use” qualification fails, let alone “daily”.
A few notable ones?
https://engineering.fb.com/2018/10/30/open-source/linux/
Btrfs
https://itsfoss.com/news/react-foundation-launch/
React
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/meta-spins-off-pytorch-foundation-to-make-ai-framework-vendor-neutral/
PyTorch (if you’re into the AI thing)
I suspect, without evidence, that you’d probably find some Meta engineers contributing to the Linux kernel to some degree, so you may have to rip that out of your system.
0 for 3, is that it?
Impressive, building your own kernel without Btrfs. I admit, you’re better than me.
CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=nWow that was almost too difficult. 🙄
I don’t get this comment. You asked for examples, and they gave you.
I asked for examples that I use. I haven’t seen one yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Facebook_software is comprehensive as far as I know. Even if you don’t use React, a lot of developers use it and control the web. So you might wander around the web that is written with React. But its no longer part of Facebook / Meta, so I don’t know if it still counts.
searches
They have a list.
https://opensource.fb.com/projects/
Meta has funded all sorts of open source infrastructure, for a long time. If you want to avoid their funded contributions… TBH, I wouldn’t even know where to begin.