• Skua@kbin.earth
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    4 hours ago

    Okay but I still don’t want a filter putting makeup on all the characters

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      The new stuff looks great once the devs get the tools. It’s going to be a highly popular feature just like framegen and early versions of diss which also had gamers screeching after seeing early performance hits.

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        I’ve found XESS tends to look better but I haven’t tried the newest DLSS.

        All of the upscalers suck with transparency effects, XESS just sucks slightly less

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    15 hours ago

    Comparative performance claims like “faster” are completely meaningless without figures, or even a point of comparison.

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      Kien’s runtime also improved with AMDNR version 0.3.4. On an AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT at 1440p (FSR Quality), the update cut the neural network pass from 73 ms down to 52 ms, yielding a 29% drop in render time.

      So, assuming the game’s own render pipeline is instant (ie. 0.0ms, entirely unreasonable, but whatever) - 1000/52= ~19.23, so at unrealistic ideal conditions the DLSS ai-nonsense-pass runs at ~19 fps with the metioned hardware & resolution

      edit: 1000/73= ~13.7, so hooray for the 6 extra frames. It is massive uplift in terms of percentage, but still unusable for gaming, imo.

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    15 hours ago

    Nice AI hallucinations. The ongoing destruction of the planet is definitely worth a small but noticeable upgrade in video game graphics!

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      15 hours ago

      DLSS5 sucks for many reasons, but “the ongoing destruction of the planet” is not really one of them, as it runs locally on a regular GPU.

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        15 hours ago

        The models were still (and probably still are actively being) trained in giant data centres that devour energy and water.
        Sure, you using it technically doesn’t hurt the environment any more but the technology as such definitely does.

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          The models were still (and probably still are actively being) trained in giant data centres that devour energy and water.

          I hate to tell you, but your Lemmy instance is in a datacenter too. Most everything on the Internet is in a datacenter.

          The important detail is that an upscaling model and a large language model are vastly different things despite both containing the word model and using neural networks.

          As to training costs. You can train an upscaling model on your phone in a few hours. It would take you millions of years to train an LLM on your phone (not to mention requiring about 12,000x as much RAM).

          You’re just repeating talking points on topics without understanding them or how they apply.

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          Training AI models takes quite a bit of energy. But probably less than you think. Without knowing how much you think I can’t say for sure, but I can say that AI is so far down the list of water consumers that any time it comes up I can be fairly confident.

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            DLSS models are not even in the same league as LLMs from a training perspective.

            The comment section is full of people trying to use anti-LLM arguments against DLSS because they both use neural networks.

            It’s like people are against matches because they’re hot and nuclear weapons are hot so matches are basically nuclear weapons.

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        Tbf the constant drive for more powerful pc components is one of the causes for planet destruction, though it’s not a leading cause and AI DLSS bs is not the only reason for this drive.

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        That’s great marketing propaganda but you’re still supporting the shitty planet killing AI obsession. Keep bullshitting yourself if it makes you feel better but don’t try to bullshit me in the process.

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          That’s great marketing propaganda

          No, it’s an easily verifiable fact. I’m not supporting anything. I’m saying that we should argue against it with arguments that actually apply to the situation, such as DLSS5 destroying artistic intent, having an unreasonable performance cost etc.

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      No. shut up. That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

      There’s a million reasons to hate AI and environmental reasons are absolutely one of them. Doesn’t apply here.

      Edit: I’m being hyperbolic, you don’t actually need to shut up. But Jesus Christ, I’m just really sick of really, really bad anti-AI arguments there are so many perfectly good ones.