• AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    Playtime can’t be guaranteed

    When a full third of your customers are refunding, that means half or more of them are finishing in below 2 hours. That means the devs estimate of 3-4 hours average playtime is bull, straight from their ass. That’s not a mistake, that’s false advertising.

    Refunding a cheap (in price) indie game before the 2 hours play mark, AFTER finishing it is just a dick move.

    Yeah? What if your reaction to reaching the ending in 90 minutes is ‘That’s it? What happened to the 4 hours I was promised’? Who’s the dick in that case?

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      9 hours ago

      Yeah? What if your reaction to reaching the ending in 90 minutes is ‘That’s it? What happened to the 4 hours I was promised’? Who’s the dick in that case?

      I can’t find where the developer “promised” 4 hours of playtime. Also don’t make the mistake that playtime does not equal to finish the game once. I ask again: I want to see the part where it did false promise. Searching the Steam page for words like “playtime” or “hours” didn’t bring anything up.

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        8 hours ago

        Yeah mb, I got confused with the part the dev said he aimed for 3-4 hours playtime. And another commentor above said they advertised it as that.

        Doesn’t really change my point, what if you reach the end and your opinion is just ‘that’s it? I paid for that?’

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          8 hours ago

          Yes, that’s it basically. If you think the game is too short, I think this does not give you right to refund. I’m not talking about the policy, but about what I think is right. As I said earlier, a value of a game shouldn’t be judged by a single play through. It depends on the game off course, there might be cases when its appropriate, but I don’t think there is a general rule we can dumb it down to certain amount of playtime. It depends on how fun it it was, what it provides other than playtime (like good story or weird game mechanics or whatever), game modes and challenges to replay in example. So playing the game once might give you 60 minutes and you see the ending scrolling, but that might not be the full picture. It might have wonderful graphics and a beautiful soundtrack that increases the value (for me). It depends on the price of the game too.

          And no, I’m not a fan of this particular game here, never played it, and it does not look like for me. I’m not defending it because “being invested and take it personal” or something like that. Just clarifying my position here.

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            8 hours ago

            If you think the game is too short, I think this does not give you right to refund.

            Seems like a basic difference of opinion then. I’m not paying that much for something that short. And it seems many players agree.

            The game also seems like utter shlock, but that’s another matter.