I own Minisforum HX99g and it can be compared to SM and only costed me 800 eur 2 years ago. 6900hx and 6650m with 32gb ddr5.Today refurbished can go around 600eur.
Does that actually shorten its lifespan? Aren’t GPUs made to run at full power without wear? (As long as they don’t overheat, but they thermal throttle before that)
Like 87 said, thermal expansion slowly damages them, so less extreme shifts between temperatures are better. Hence when turning the PC on, I also let it slowly “warm up” before heavily loading it, and don’t run the fans too aggressively when it’s cooler.
You can also have individual components overheat and die. VRMs on some 3090s are notorious for this. I’m trying to minimize this risk by undervolting and clock capping it, so current draw never peaks too high.
There’s certainly CPU options out there for high fps gaming on ddr4 rigs, I just feel bad for the guys still on ddr3 who can’t eat the extra ~400 needed for a proper rig nowadays.
5060 aint fast either, but it’s way faster than a 7600. $300 will let you upgrade easily to 32GB of ram, or you could sell the 5060 (they seem to be about 300-320 for completed fleabay listings) and take the saved $300 and buy a 9070xt or something which are $630 at MC. 4k gaming for $1300. PSU is 650W and should work fine.
1300 and only 16gb of ram and a GPU on par with a RTX 3060 / RX 6650 . Brutal.
I own Minisforum HX99g and it can be compared to SM and only costed me 800 eur 2 years ago. 6900hx and 6650m with 32gb ddr5.Today refurbished can go around 600eur.
Im probably going to have to die with my 3060ti
I’m babying my 3090 like its the last GPU on earth. Undervolted, TDP way down, clockspeed capped, fans RUNNING.
It will never see 420W again.
Make sure you can get replacement fans before you abuse them
I can! It’s an EVGA FTW3.
Even if I couldn’t, it’s ducted to the side of an SFF case, so I could just disconnect them, wire the PWM lead from the GPU and use 120mm case fans.
The card rarely goes above 300W now and ingests ambient air, so the fans hardly spin up anyway.
EVGA, nice, all you needed to say haha
I wish they still made GPUs :(. Even an Intel Arc.
Hell, if they could somehow source 3090 dies, they’d make a killing still selling them, heh.
Does that actually shorten its lifespan? Aren’t GPUs made to run at full power without wear? (As long as they don’t overheat, but they thermal throttle before that)
Like 87 said, thermal expansion slowly damages them, so less extreme shifts between temperatures are better. Hence when turning the PC on, I also let it slowly “warm up” before heavily loading it, and don’t run the fans too aggressively when it’s cooler.
You can also have individual components overheat and die. VRMs on some 3090s are notorious for this. I’m trying to minimize this risk by undervolting and clock capping it, so current draw never peaks too high.
That’s just textbook propaganda from hardware manufacturers.
They can say it because technically the change from cold to hot damages components… Not the actual heat… Afaik.
Also, thermal throttling tanks performance, especially in CPU’s. It causes massive hitching or even crashes.
9070xt will run circles around it for $630 or so.
There’s certainly CPU options out there for high fps gaming on ddr4 rigs, I just feel bad for the guys still on ddr3 who can’t eat the extra ~400 needed for a proper rig nowadays.
Yeah. X3D 5000-series will outrun many DDR5 CPUs in games.
Meanwhile you can walk into microcenter and pick up a 7500x3d with a 5060 for $999
5060 aint fast either, but it’s way faster than a 7600. $300 will let you upgrade easily to 32GB of ram, or you could sell the 5060 (they seem to be about 300-320 for completed fleabay listings) and take the saved $300 and buy a 9070xt or something which are $630 at MC. 4k gaming for $1300. PSU is 650W and should work fine.
God I wish we had microcenter here. All the tech shops around the just sell overpriced prebuilts and peripherals
Where ya buying ya ram? I haven’t seen any 32GB packs for less than $380
It comes with 16, you only need to buy 16 more for 32.
$205 for 16GB https://www.microcenter.com/product/688810/gskill-flare-x5-16gb-(1-x-16gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl36-single-channel-desktop-memory-module-f5-6000j3636f16gx1-fx5-black
$330 for 32GB https://www.microcenter.com/product/650528/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-5600-pc5-44800-cl32-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-flbd532g5600hc-black
so even if you want a matching pair it’s pretty close.
480€ here…