• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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      This is a stupid argument. First, the ESRB is not the dictator of who plays what games. They are a recommendation group. Parents may want to consider what they say, but it should not be left at that. For example, sexual content is much worse than violent content in their eyes, and I’m sure we all agree that’s stupid.

      Second, kids play CS and TF2. We all know this, and Valve knows this. That’s not a bad thing, even if they’re rated M. I don’t think they do any harm, and CS at least probably does some good, with learning teamwork and stuff. Valve then uses their platform to push gambling, which is wrong (it’s psychologically manipulative, when they could just sell skins outright without manipulation) regardless of age, but particularly bad if they aren’t trying to prevent kids from participating, and they aren’t.

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        11 hours ago

        Children should not be near those games. And it’s parents job to make sure of it.

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          11 hours ago

          Oh, so you agree; Valve generally and Gabe specifically are mortally repugnant actors and should be criminally liable for their premeditated and deliberate targeting of minors.

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            8 hours ago

            I agree that they started a machine that was unnecessary and it is repugnant; I still blame parents for any children involved.

            Never have I seen any minor targeting from Valve.

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            10 hours ago

            No, Valve made M-rated games, it’s the parents’ responsibility to not have kids playing them.
            I know, they’re Parents, these unblamable entities, but here we are, sex has consequences.

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              9 hours ago

              Valve bears a legal, ethical, and moral culpability for targeting minors specifically and with ill intent for decades.

              I bet you think cigarette companies are blameless because there’s an age requirement for tobacco, too.

              Look in the mirror, chud. Simping for billionaires is a bad look. It pollutes your soul.

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                9 hours ago

                Valve bears a legal, ethical, and moral culpability

                No, only legal. The other responsibilities are the parents’, which i bet you won’t consider culpable at all if their kids start to smoke.